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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:36:32 -
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Actual nomading.. I'm surprised...
And the frigate wormholes.. Umm.. Hmm.. With wolf rayet effect...Shield frigates and destroyers hate you.
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:45:15 -
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Mizhir wrote:This is looking good. I like the concept of the shattered systems for attracting preys and predators. Though I have one major issue with the small ship ones. If you give them the normal C6 WR bonus you will just exclude shield ships. Make it a special WH effect instead (which could also be integrated in the lore and why they only allow small ships).
It's not possible to bonus both shield and armor (they function very differently). What I would have considered is the cataclysmic variable, except that would nerf solo play and anybody with 1 frig Logi would own....
But that would balance out ship options (though I get that people are sick of crow's online).
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:58:44 -
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Going over this info, if the t3 destroyers pan out, you would have made the entire wormhole community very happy. The c5 and c6 sites in these new standard holes would have to be looked at for difficulty and value of running. Also the wormhole mass cap would need to be looked at (both in these new holes and Thera, as 3 freighters collapse a capital size wormhole.
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:08:56 -
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Mizhir wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:Mizhir wrote:This is looking good. I like the concept of the shattered systems for attracting preys and predators. Though I have one major issue with the small ship ones. If you give them the normal C6 WR bonus you will just exclude shield ships. Make it a special WH effect instead (which could also be integrated in the lore and why they only allow small ships). It's not possible to bonus both shield and armor (they function very differently). What I would have considered is the cataclysmic variable, except that would nerf solo play and anybody with 1 frig Logi would own.... But that would balance out ship options (though I get that people are sick of crow's online). Well, they could just buff the damage and some other fun stats and then leave tanking out of it.
I guess not many people have run wormhole sites in a frigate before. To do a c3, takes a decently fit frigate (minimum faction repairer). It's possible, but with spawns out at 70km, the alpha would rip though most of your tank in 1 shot (had that happen in both my faction fit armor and dead space fit assault frig). The effect keeps the ship on field and makes it capable of doing the site with less fear of bad transversal or a lucky shot.
I get the idea that they took that into account. There may not be a viable way of doing both shield and armor in these systems, and make people use them (while variety is nice, making it so varied that people can't just have one standard doctrine makes people just completely avoid going in the system period).
Frig holes, all armor. Ok.
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:12:24 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:DaReaper wrote:Might be a dumb question, as these are shattered planets (if I read that right) does this mean no PI? Yes, there is no PI in any of the shattered systems, including in Thera (Thera isn't all shattered planets but at least for now we're not enabling PI there).
Good decision on that btw.
What are the masses on the new wormholes. Do they regenerate and do they have new sig id's.
Also, does the Thera holes have a cap (can I crash 3 freighters into it and collapse it)? Do they regenerate?
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:24:16 -
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Red Teufel wrote:Thera
Why allow dictor and hic bubbles and only have 4 stations. Its just a station campers dream and a place for coalitions to go on vacation to. just seem very underwhelming to me and definitely not a Jita of WH space. please add more stations and bar hic and dic bubbles.
They barred deployable bubbles, but I don't see them barring hic or dic bubbles.
The 4 stations only are of some concern. 8 would be more bearable but possibly too many. 6 or 7 would have been about right.
Also the system is a little smaller than I expected. (Expecting 500 to 600 Au).
If the other 100 systems had stations also, I would have said clone jumping moronic. Since it's just Thera... I'm not so opposed to it. As long as that doesn't become standard practice.
This may turn into a major transit hub for space travel, especially if it is that interconnected.
Also, let us welcome Rancers Smart Bombing Battleship gang back.
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2014.11.13 17:26:47 -
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Summer Isle wrote:My expectation for Thera: Stealth Bombers. Stealth Bombers everywhere!
Also, CCP should give Thera a 50% reduction to the effects of its industry index. I have no doubts that Thera will be in the top-lists for the index at pretty much all times.
Actually I would make it so that Thera has no taxes on buying or selling stuff at all (zero on a broker 5 and accounting 5 character).
I would charge a docking tax though (yup, get charged to dock). Heck it's soe's station, why should they let us dock for free.
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:09:53 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:What are the odds of doubling the stations and size of Thera if it proves to be too small after some time? Or would you simply add another system like it?
We're all kinda thinking the same thing. A group of 4 people can lockup a station pretty easily, then dock about as easily.
I see it happening. I'm not sure for how long.
I'm a little less worried about people at sites. Yes they will be probed down to death the first week or two. After the novelty wears off though..
You can put too many stations into a system and defeat the whole purpose of it. A lot of us see 4 as too low. I believe 9 is too high. You could put more stations in, but the one that people designate as "the trade hub", will be the one under 24 hour hobo watch.
I'm going to stop theorycrafting though and go see it first.
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:12:03 -
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DaReaper wrote:Um.. not sure if this was asked... but uh... in 25 wormhole there will be ice fields... yet the wormholes can only allow frigs... a frig is around 25km3 and the smallest barge, that can use ice miners is 100km3... or the size of a cruiser/bs... so.. how the hades are you going to be able to mine ice in these 25 systems? unless I am missing something... which if I am correct me, because I don't know of a none strip ice miner....
In assuming these 25 systems won't have ice in them (because that would be completely useless). Barges won't fit and the venture can't icemine
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:39:04 -
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Arronicus wrote:I too, am curious about the mining, particularly the ice mining sites in the frig only systems. Also, even more frig wormholes in w-space feels like further efforts by ccp to encourage the current residents to leave.
Nice to hear Thera bars deployed bubbles though. At least make the pilot risk a ship for bubbling if they want to keep something bubbled.
Unless ice drops from 1000m3 per block or venture become capable of equipping ice harvesters, I don't see it happening.
Frig holes are too small for barges (they are a 2 to 3 mil max mass hull. Smallest barge is 20,000,000 mass (procurer).
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